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Interview:Simon@Preduce(Preduce专访)

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来自泰国的滑板品牌Preduce对国内的朋友来说也许会有点陌生,成立于2002年的preduce,是当时泰国的首家滑板公司,旗
下聚集了泰国国内最优秀的滑手人才,他们拥有自己的同名滑板品牌,赞助滑手,成立Team,同时还开设了3家滑板/streetwear
店铺(两家在曼谷,一家在清迈)。对于滑板产业还不成熟的泰国来说,Preduce的存在无疑是对泰国滑板的发展起到了推
动和支持作用。泰国国内最优秀的滑手从跨国品牌赞助商处得到的也仅限于硬件上(鞋和服饰)上的支持,目前还没有一个签
约带薪的职业滑手。这一点几乎和国内完全不同。借机preduce来北京巡回之际,我们邀约了其品牌创始人之一的Simon接受
采访,大约在一周前,Simon以文字的方式回复了我们,感兴趣的朋友可以阅读如下我们对其的访谈内容
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简单介绍自己以及Preduce

我叫Simon Pellaux,来自瑞士,负责Preduce品牌总体规划(Preduce是泰国历史上第一家滑板公司。成立于2002年,
完全由滑手创立,一直秉承着为滑手服务的理念。Preduce不仅仅出品滑板板面,赞助滑手,他们同时还有3家实体滑板
店铺,两家在泰国,一家在清迈)。
在中国为期一个月的拍摄工作如何?完整版的Video大概什么时候推出呢?

这是一次感觉非常棒的滑板旅行,我们去了深圳,广州,北京,以及哈尔滨。我们找到了各地很多不错的spot去滑,拍
了很多视频片段,每到一处都结交了很多热情的当地朋友。我们刚刚推出了一个关于本次tour的小短片,不过是用一些
我们挑剩下的片段编辑在一起的,那些挑走的主要片段我们会用于制作我们preduce的第三部滑板Video,大概是在2012
年1月正式推出首映。
来到中国,一路游历了北京,深圳,哈尔滨,广州之后,你们对当地的滑板发展状况有什么大致印象吗?如果再给
你一次机会回来,你愿意选择哪里?说说看在这次tour中一些特别有意思的事?有因为文化上的差异而心生不适吗?

在去过的4个城市里,似乎只有北京和深圳两地的滑板氛围比较不错,哈尔滨是规模最小的,只有不多的几位滑手。北京给我
们的感觉是相对而言更成熟,每天都有滑手在滑,在拍摄。我听说上海在这方面也非常不错,但是我们暂时还没有机会去那边
亲眼目睹。
至于希望回到哪座城市,我想肯定是选择北京。我们在这边呆了差不多两个礼拜,在那里我们看到了很多不错的滑板地点,但
是因为时间关系,我们并没有机会去滑。
在旅途的路上发生太多有意思的事情了,真的没办法用一两句话来概括。我们去爬了长城,但是在爬之前的晚上我们却是在party,
喝酒一直通宵到天亮,在这种情况下怕长城真的是一种考验。来到长城之后,我们真的是被它的雄伟气势给怔住了。印象深刻的
还包括每一晚都有机会品尝各种美食,我想这也是北京之行的一大亮点。从深圳坐火车北上,在车上熬过辛苦的24小时,我想这
也是本次中国之行的最难忘的体验之一。
我们住在泰国曼谷,所以我觉得我们在文化适应性上应该比那些来自美国,或者欧洲地区的人要好多了。但是…我觉得….每一处
不同的文化都有不同于其它的地方,在这里我们依然能体验到一些我们之前不曾接触的新奇事物。这不正是旅行带给大家最有意
义的部分吗?
在曼谷大概有多少玩滑板的人?滑板在那边的发展情况又如何?相对于场地来说,这边和那边的主要差距是什么?

让我说出具体数字怕是有点困难,我粗略估计大概应该是在2000人左右吧。在泰国到处都有玩滑板的人,不只是在曼谷。滑板
的队伍正在壮大,总体来说在过去的几年里一直在向健康的方向发展。
在场地地形方面最明显的差别就是在曼谷你不能像在北京一样到处自由滑板,这里地面场地真的是糙到不行了,还有道路上的车
流量又异常密集。我们必须驾车到处去找寻滑板点,而滑板点之间又分散的很开,很远,不方便。这里没有像北京一样的广场可
以让你自由滑板整整一天。除了硬件条件差之外,我们这边还有保安的管制,很多地方是禁止滑板的,我们总是被保安驱逐赶走。
来到北京,我们才意识到滑板天堂的感觉。
你在这边见识了很多滑手,你觉他们怎么样?

所有我们碰到过的滑手都表现的很友好热情,其中的一些真的相当好。但是我觉得滑板给我们带来的,最有有意思的是无论走到哪
里,滑手哦和滑手之间都有共同语言,大家很容易相处相识。
谈谈关于北京的感觉吧,女孩,啤酒,天气,老百姓,美食….

在我们走过的城市里,北京女孩无疑是最漂亮的。只可惜我们大部分人都有女朋友了,所以就没什么太多的行动。北京的啤
酒好喝而且真的是太便宜了,和曼谷相比便宜很多!至于天气,这边会比较干燥,还有点点冷,空气有时很糟糕,但是在我
们停留的这段时间里,几乎都是大晴天,所以我们真的觉得没有什么可抱怨的。生活在北京的人们和其他城市的百姓相比,
会显得更懂生活,他们享受慢节奏的生活,看得出来他们喜欢喝酒,聊天,外出聚会。这边的美食真的让人难忘,住在这里
的几天,我们就像国王的生活一样享受着美食,每晚尝遍中国各种菜系,而且价格相当实惠。滑板spot就更不用说了,很棒
而且多的让你数不过来。
你是怎么会在曼谷留下来,并且开了preduce店铺的?

我第一次来曼谷的时候是在2002年,当时是来度假旅游外加滑板,来了之后就喜欢上了这里。结交了一些本地滑手和朋友,
从此之后我就经常回来,和本地滑手们玩在一起,在此期间,我也和他们一起想办法,设法让他们可以延续自己的滑板梦想,
逐渐我和这些本地滑手的关系也越来铁了,现在的preduce team里的pro都是我的好朋友。在当时我们觉得应该靠自己,凭
借自己的力量来改变现状,于是在2002年我和Nung 以及Guillaume两位本地搭档合作开始了preduce滑板公司。接下来在
2005年我们又在曼谷开设了首家滑板店铺。现在我们在曼谷总共有两家分店,在泰国北部城市清迈也有一家。
在泰国的滑手也会向中国的滑手们一样面临一些现实生活压力问题吗?例如父母要求年轻人找到好的工作,然后养
家,照顾父母?

是的,这里的滑手也面临同样问题。很多年轻人在20出头的时间段就退出了滑板圈,因为他们必须要找到一份可以养活自
己的工作。但愿随着泰国滑板产业慢慢的成熟和壮大,这种情况会逐步改变。现在,滑手们已经看到了凭借滑板养活自己
的可能性,只要你够努力,当然再加上一点点运气。
你在泰国会长久呆吗?如果选择那里,什么是最大原因?思念你的家人啊?

我在曼谷生活了将近6年时光,虽然我已经把这当成第二故乡了,但是我还是很想我的老家。我不确定会不会一直呆在这
里过完余下生活。我尽量住着再说,顺其自然吧,看看命运会怎么安排我。但是有一点是确定的:我会在泰国呆一段日子。
但你选择preduce赞助滑手时,有固定标准吗?

决定是否赞助新成员,这将永远都会尊重于preduce团队的意见。当然那个滑手必须有一定的实力,但是是还需要有不错
的性格,最重要的一点是能和团队成员融洽相处。现在的preduce Team里大家都是认识了10年的朋友,这是一个关系紧
密的团体,所以新来的成员必须要合适我们团队。
你们在泰国开设了3家店铺,生意如何?preduce代理Nike SB, Adidas SB and Converse,你们从品牌商那边
得到了足够的支持吗?

生意还行。一路过来有起有浮,但是我们努力坚持了5年时间,所以我们还算可以。从事滑板生意不会让你发财,但也不会
让你饿死,所以我们已经很满足了!
有时,我们会觉得有种得不到重视和支持的感觉,因为地理,人口,经济原因,泰国不会像世界其他地区国家一样被大品
牌看中,这边的市场真的很小。尽管如此,Converse对我们却是越来越支持,他们出资支持我们外出滑板巡回以及拍摄滑
板Video,还赞助了我们的3名滑手。这一切得感谢从onverse的Ian还有波仔。
谁是负责preuce板面图案设计以及服饰线设计工作的人物?
我们和很多不同的图形设计师,艺术家合作,有泰国本地的,也有国外的。合作的前提是他的设计我们也喜欢,而且
可以付诸实践。我们也会在设计的过程中,尽量聆听结合团队内部滑手本人的意见。

你有想过进入中国市场吗?
当然,我们希望和一些本地的分销商以及店铺合作。如果谁有兴趣,可以联系我们哈哈

我听说你们的下一个Video可能在中国搞个首映?多大的可能?
我是很想!但是到目前为止,真的没底,这要看预算安排,以及看有没有人愿意去操作。

有什么想对Steve@halostreetwear说的吗?
Steve和我已经是15你啊的朋友了,我们都是瑞士人,来自一个相同的地区,以前也在一起滑板和滑雪。他一直对我说
北京是如何如何NB,希望我和preduce team过来。他和他的妻子对我们的招待让我们超乎想象,很棒,另外Steve也
是我见过最棒的滑板路线向导,他滑的也不错。Merci mec et à bient?t!(应该是感谢之类的话)
谢谢你花时间来回答我们的问题,希望下次北京再见!
我们也希望尽早有机会再回北京。谢谢你们的采访。感谢那些广州,深圳,北京,哈尔滨本地的滑手朋友们的热情和帮
助,欢迎你们来泰国,我们也会回报大家。同样还要谢谢Converse的支持!忘了感谢Lui,他让我们见识到了最棒的北
京夜生活,他是绝对是一个Party大师!

泰国滑板Preduce 2011中国行视频

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English Version :

1. First, quickly introduce yourself and Preduce.

My name is Simon Pellaux, I’m from Switzerland and I’m the director of Preduce, the first skateboard company out of Thailand.
Preduce was started by skateboarders for skateboarders in 2002. It’s a skateboard company and also three skate shops in Bangkok and Chiang Mai.

2. How was your filming mission during the one month China tour? When will the video be released?

The trip went great. We went to Shenzhen, Guang Zhou, Beijing and Harbin, skated some amazing spots, got a lot of footage and met some really nice locals everywhere we went. We’ve just released a video of the tour made with some of the left over footage from the trip. And the main bulk of the footage will go in the third preduce video that will come out in January 2012.

3. When you guys came to China (Shenzhen, Guang Zhou, Beijing and Harbin), what did you think about the skate scene here? Which city you think are you most likely to come back to? Anything interesting happening during the tour? Just tell us one or two. Did you experience some culture shock?

The scene in the other cities we went to except Beijing and Shenzhen seemed still quite small. It was definitely small in Harbin with only a handful of skaters. In Beijing on the other hand it seemed like the local scene was well developed with people skating and filming every day. I heard Shanghai has a well developed scene as well but we’ve never been there yet.

We definitely want to come back to Beijing. We stayed here for almost 2 weeks and there’s still so many spots we saw that we haven’t had time to skate.

A lot of of great things happened during the trip so it’s hard to narrow it down. Going to the Great Wall with no sleep after partying all night was quite a mission. We were all blown away by the size and majesty of it. Sampling delicious food in Beijing every night was also one of the highlight of the trip. And the 24 hours train ride from Shenzhen to Beijing was quite an experience as well.

We live in Bangkok so I guess coming to China is less of a cultural shock than for somebody living in the States or Europe. But yeah there’s always cool and different things to observe in every culture and I think that’s the best part of traveling.


4. How many skaters is there in Bangkok? How’s the skate scene going there? What’s the major difference in terms of spots when you guys skate around between here and there?

It’s hard to put down an exact number but I’m guessing there should be around 2000 skaters in Bangkok. There’s skaters all over Thailand though, not only in Bangkok.  The scene is growing and there’s more and more skaters. It has evolved in the right directions the last couple years.

The major difference in terms of spots is that you can’t cruise anywhere in Bangkok. The ground is really shitty and the traffic is too intense. We have to drive everywhere to skate spots in Bangkok and the spots are really far from each other. Also, there’s no plaza type of spots where you can skate all day in Bangkok like you guys have in Beijing. The spots here are rough and hard to skate for the most part and we get kicked out a lot. We were amazed on how every spots in China are pretty much perfect.

5. You met a lot of skaters here. What do you think about them?

All the skaters we met were really friendly and helpful. Some of them were really good also. But I guess the cool thing with skateboarding is that skateboarders around the world are pretty much the same so it’s easy for us to get along.

6. Say something about Beijing city. Girls, beers, weather, people, food etc.

Beijing girls were definitely the best looking ones we saw in China, even though most of us have girlfriends so there wasn’t much action going on. Beer was good and really cheap. A lot cheaper than in Thailand. The weather was really dry and a bit cold for us and the pollution was harsh at times but it was sunny every day so can’t complain. The people in Beijing seemed a bit more laid back and relaxed than other places we went to. We could see they like to hang out, drink and have a good time. The food was amazing. We ate like kings every night sampling food from all the regions of China for really cheap. And the skate spots were perfect and endless.

7. How did you end up opening the Preduce shop in Bangkok?

I first came in 2002 to Bangkok for some holidays and to skate. I really liked it, met some good skateboarders and good friends, so I kept coming back.  I became really close friends with the skaters that are now pro for Preduce and we were thinking of some ways to help them pursue skateboarding. We decided to take the matters in our own hands and together with my partners Nung and Guillaume we started  our own company, preduce, in 2002. And later on in 2005 we opened the first Preduce shop in Bangkok. We now have 2 stores in Bangkok and one in the North in Chiang Mai.


8. Are skaters in Thailand facing the same issues or realities that happen to us here, like parents giving them too much pressure to find a good job and support their family?

Yeah Thai skaters definitely face the same kind of problems. A lot of them quite skating in their early twenties because they have to get a job and survive. But it will change gradually hopefully with the skate industry slowly growing here and now that skaters see that there’s a possibility to make a living out of skateboarding in Thailand if they work hard at it and get lucky.

9. Do you miss your home? Are you going to stay there for the rest of your life? If so, why?

I miss my home a lot, even though now after living in Bangkok for the past 6 years it feels like home too. I don’t know if I will stay here for the rest of my life. I tend to live day by day and see were life will bring me. But I’m definitely staying in Thailand for some time.

10. When it comes to choosing new skaters for the preduce team, what’s the standard?

It’s always a team decision when we put a new skater on preduce. He has to be good skateboarder obviously, but also have a good personality and most importantly get along with everybody on the team. We’ve all know each other for 10 years and are a really tight group of friends so a new team rider has to be able to fit in right.

11. You currently operate three shops in Thailand. How’s business going? Preduce carries Nike SB, Adidas SB and Converse, do you get enough support from them?

Business has been all right. There’s ups and downs but we managed to stay open for the past 5 years so we’re doing ok. You’re not going to get rich doing this skateboard thing but we’re all surviving so we can’t complain.

Sometimes, being in Thailand, it feels like the big brands focus more on other regions of the world and we’re a bit left out since the market is still really small here. That being said, Converse has been amazing for us lately. They gave us a lot of support with traveling and for our next video and they are properly hooking up three of our riders. Big props to Ian and Eric at Converse for making it happen.

12. Who mostly focus on graphic design for Preduce boards and for the clothing line?

We work with a lot of different people, graphic designers and artists, both Thais and Internationals. People who’s work we like and that are down to work with us as well. And we try to involve and get feedback from the team as much as possible when it comes to designs for boards series and clothing.

13. Have you ever thought about entering the Chinese market with Preduce?

For sure. We would be really happy to work with some local distributors or shops. Hit us up if you’re interested, ha ha.

14. I heard that there might be a chinese premiere for the next Preduce video? Is that possible?

I really hope so but it’s all up in the air for now. It will depend on budget and if people are willing to do it. Let’s wait and see.

15. Any  shout-out to Steve@Halostreetwear?

Steve and me have been friends for over 15 years. We come from the same area in Switzerland and were skateboarding and snowboarding together back in the days. He’s been telling me for years how amazing Beijing was and that I should come with the team. Him and his wife have been the best host you can hope for in Beijing and he was the best skate tour guide we have ever had. He rips too! Merci mec et à bientôt!

16. Thanks for your time and hope to see you next time in Beijing.

Yeah we hope we can come back as soon as possible. Thanks to you guys for doing this and to all the locals in Beijing, Harbin, Shenzhen and Guang Zhou that welcomed us and showed us around. You’re welcome in Bangkok anytime so we can do the same for you guys. Also big thanks to Converse for the support.

P.S

Big up to Lui for holding it down and showing us the best of what Beijing’s nightlife has to offer. Party master!

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Post By: Mr.Robot @ 七 25, 2011
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